AI Film Makers of St Louis - AI vs Classic? (ep 003)

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• 0:00
  Nate Haskins

  All right, everybody. Welcome back.

• 0:01
  Nate Haskins

  We're here talking about the AI Film Jam.

• 0:04
  Nate Haskins

  I'm Nate. I'm here with Allison and Rob.

• 0:06
  Rob Smith

  What up?

• 0:07
  Nate Haskins

  And today we're going to talk about a fairly hot and contentious topic,

• 0:11
  Nate Haskins

  the use of AI to create essentially creative assets.

• 0:15
  Nate Haskins

  So we're going to get into the pros and cons of that a little bit.

• 0:18
  Nate Haskins

  And as three people that use AI quite a bit,

• 0:20
  Nate Haskins

  I think we're going to have some insights for this particular topic.

• 0:23
  Nate Haskins

  So we're going to kind of do this. We've got about five minutes to talk.

• 0:26
  Nate Haskins

  So we're just going to go right down the list. So let me.

• 0:28
  Nate Haskins

  Let me toss it over to you,

• 0:29
  Nate Haskins

  Allison,

• 0:29
  Nate Haskins

  to start with.

• 0:31
  Nate Haskins

  What's it like, and you're an artist by training, you've been doing art much before AI even existed in a functional sense,

• 0:37
  Nate Haskins

  but it's here now and I know you enjoy using it. Why don't you tell us a little bit about it?

• 0:41
  Allison Haskins

  I do enjoy it. I think it's fun to be creative.

• 0:45
  Allison Haskins

  It really is about the prompting. We kind of talked about that before on how you make things and you have to dial that in depending on your vision but it's super fun to like put in a prompt and see what it comes up with and then it almost feels like curating things sometimes like you got to go through like four different pictures and see like which one doesn't have weird fingers or something like that and then go from there.

• 1:08
  Allison Haskins

  So that's that's how I use it most of the time and it's great for ideas to like even if it's not exactly what you want You can take that as an artist and then apply maybe those colors and that theme

• 1:19
  Allison Haskins

  To whatever you're doing.

• 1:20
  Allison Haskins

  So

• 1:21
  Rob Smith

  All right, so I'm gonna play devil's advocate here.

• 1:23
  Rob Smith

  Are you worried being a graphic designer and being like really good at it?

• 1:27
  Rob Smith

  Are you at all worried or concerned that AI is going to take your job?

• 1:34
  Allison Haskins

  AI itself isn't going to take our jobs as Nate says someone who uses AI might we've heard that before

• 1:41
  Nate Haskins

  good way to put it

• 1:42
  Allison Haskins

  that's uh I think uh I'm not concerned I think it's just a way to speed up a process especially as a professional like I don't really need to handcraft each icon for the website

• 1:52
  Rob Smith

  right you don't have to like draw it out on a piece of paper bring it into illustrator image trace it brush it up clean it you know

• 2:00
  Allison Haskins

  exactly for especially for like yeah frivolous stuff like that

• 2:03
  Allison Haskins

  But yeah,

• 2:05
  Allison Haskins

  if you're like a set craftsman, you can still do cool paintings and stuff.

• 2:09
  Allison Haskins

  It's not going to replace anything,

• 2:11
  Allison Haskins

  it's just another tool,

• 2:12
  Allison Haskins

  I think.

• 2:13
  Rob Smith

  i also like the fact that how you hit on like using it for inspiration because i will do that too like give me an idea like i have sometimes i get like creative writer's block you know and you can like go in and be like i'm thinking this is what i'm thinking and it's like oh

• 2:29
  Rob Smith

  I really like that.

• 2:30
  Rob Smith

  Now, let me refine it and then let me put my workflow to it.

• 2:34
  Rob Smith

  So I usually will bring it into like Illustrator and clean up like the fragmentation, image trace it, you blow it up, whatever.

• 2:41
  Allison Haskins

  Yeah.

• 2:41
  Rob Smith

  And so there's still a workflow, there's still a process very rarely will I take any image that AI gives me and then just send it out into the interwebs, you know what I mean?

• 2:51
  Allison Haskins

  Yeah,

• 2:51
  Allison Haskins

  absolutely. The process for sure.

• 2:53
  Nate Haskins

  Got it. So there's a refined process to this. It's not simply tap it in the computer and the final product comes out. Do you usually experience that or no?

• 3:01
  Allison Haskins

  Never.

• 3:02
  Nate Haskins

  Never.

• 3:03
  Nate Haskins

  It takes work to refine it.

• 3:05
  Allison Haskins

  Oh yeah.

• 3:05
  Nate Haskins

  Yeah. So is this more along the lines of like looking at it in terms of artistic vision than it is about tooling perhaps?

• 3:11
  Nate Haskins

  Like what do you think of this argument? People think that AI is stealing the creativity of people.

• 3:17
  Nate Haskins

  Like people are, so AI is trained on a bunch of art.

• 3:20
  Nate Haskins

  art that it takes in and then you prompt it to get information back out of it which is some amalgamation of previously existing work what do you think of that concept

• 3:30
  Allison Haskins

  That's kind of how an artist's brain works.

• 3:32
  Allison Haskins

  Like you look at different things in the environment and you kind of do that yourself in your brain and AI kind of does that with itself.

• 3:41
  Rob Smith

  Yeah, I kind of agree.

• 3:43
  Rob Smith

  I mean, you know, with how long humanity has been around.

• 3:48
  Rob Smith

  i i'm not going to sit here and say nobody has an original thought anymore but it's very difficult to say that everything like music and art is originally derived from from nothing there's some influence even in music you know there's some kind of influence you know what i mean

• 4:07
  Rob Smith

  man so i i totally agree with you on that like now will i go in and say make me this picture and i want it to look like a rembrandt or um you know or a watercolor or the water lily front you know i don't necessarily agree with that like you know i don't want to go in and be like give me an hr geiger like style black alien looking thing you know what i mean like i don't i don't necessarily agree with that but

• 4:31
  Nate Haskins

  Right.

• 4:33
  Nate Haskins

  And then what do you think about the idea of, so for me, for example, I'm a business person.

• 4:39
  Nate Haskins

  I'm also somewhat of an artist too.

• 4:41
  Nate Haskins

  I mean, I actually have a degree in art come to find out that, yeah,

• 4:44
  Rob Smith

  I never knew that.

• 4:45
  Nate Haskins

  so I spent more of my time doing the technical side of things, but I'm a type of person who is always pressed for time.

• 4:51
  Nate Haskins

  I always feel like my days are mostly limited by how much time I have and we all have 24 hours so one of the big things I've got out of this process with AI so I code for example my ability to code is now 10x 100x faster and I'm really enjoying this process but on the flip side of it it does destroy the old model of like to sit there and handcraft code for eight hours that just doesn't happen for me anymore but the flip side of it is

• 5:17
  Nate Haskins

  i'm able to produce much more code in a much more enjoyable way and i've actually found this process of using ai to be enjoyable like i actually don't miss hand coding a bunch of stuff anymore i'm much less stressed out as a person it did change the economics and it did change the game but now that it's here i wouldn't want to go back to not doing it this way with ai and as far as the film stuff goes it takes i don't know if anybody's actually tried to make film rendering i know

• 5:43
  Nate Haskins

  a present company has but the actual producing of film and producing of art assets takes a tremendous amount of time most of the time and if you're doing something that's maybe a one-off trailer for a game jam spending weeks upon weeks on that project sometimes i can't afford to do it

• 6:00
  Nate Haskins

  But what I love about AI is the fact that I can come up with a concept that captures my vision of something so quickly.

• 6:06
  Nate Haskins

  It may not be perfect and I can tune it,

• 6:08
  Nate Haskins

  but I can get that out there in a matter of time that may not have existed otherwise without this option.

• 6:13
  Rob Smith

  One thing I want to touch on, I know we're limited on time.

• 6:17
  Rob Smith

  You mentioned coding.

• 6:18
  Rob Smith

  My background is not in IT or coding or anything like that,

• 6:22
  Rob Smith

  but with the use of AI,

• 6:24
  Rob Smith

  I'm able to go in and tell it,

• 6:26
  Rob Smith

  create me a web page and make it look like this.

• 6:29
  Rob Smith

  It does a pretty good job.

• 6:32
  Rob Smith

  And so what I will do is I will create like a web page on my company's website and then I will reach out to our website provider and be like,

• 6:38
  Rob Smith

  okay, this is what I need you to change because I don't know code.

• 6:41
  Rob Smith

  What I'm getting at is it allows people who aren't necessarily trained or well versed in coding,

• 6:46
  Rob Smith

  graphic design or anything,

• 6:48
  Rob Smith

  that can explore a creative way that they may not have ever had the opportunity to because AI handles a lot of the groundwork for it.

• 6:58
  Nate Haskins

  Mm-hmm.

• 6:59
  Rob Smith

  And it can inspire people like myself where it's like,

• 7:04
  Rob Smith

  okay, I'm not really good at coding, but I really enjoy doing this. Let me go learn more about coding so that I can.

• 7:10
  Rob Smith

  tell ai more or better what better what i want you know so i think there's a there's a thing where we have an opportunity to learn from ai just as much as ai has an opportunity from to learn from us yeah

• 7:23
  Allison Haskins

  I agree.

• 7:24
  Allison Haskins

  I love that with music.

• 7:25
  Allison Haskins

  Like I would totally not normally ever make music, but now I can a little bit.

• 7:31
  Allison Haskins

  it's not the same as you know a real musician or anything but it's definitely inspiring and just it's just super fun

• 7:37
  Rob Smith

  and that's what I get at too like creating graphics and video and music and stuff it's a ton of fun be

• 7:45
  Nate Haskins

  there we go a ton of fun there this is a great topic we could talk more about this at length but we're going to wrap it for now again thank you for tuning into this this is

• 7:53
  Rob Smith

  sure to sign up for the AI jam

• 7:54
  Nate Haskins

  the ai jam go ahead and sign up for that do you remember the website do you want to give that a shout

• 7:59
  E

  Yeah

• 7:59
  Rob Smith

  I actually don't. It's so new.

• 8:01
  Nate Haskins

  Go ahead and search for the St.

• 8:02
  Nate Haskins

  Louis film AI in Google.

• 8:04
  Nate Haskins

  Just type in those terms. It'll come right up.

• 8:06
  Nate Haskins

  Jeremy did a great job with the SEO on that.

• 8:08
  Rob Smith

  Good.

• 8:08
  Nate Haskins

  That's it for now.

• 8:09
  Nate Haskins

  For Allison,

• 8:10
  Nate Haskins

  for Rob,

• 8:11
  Nate Haskins

  I'm Nate.

• 8:12
  Nate Haskins

  See you next time.